Old CVNE's
Old CVNE's
I recently had the good fortune to taste a CVNE Viña Real 1976. It was fantastic.
Has anyone here experience of these old wines ? AND does the Imperial age as well ?
Another question I have is whether the wines Real/Imperial are still made in the same way
and whether in time the 96's for example will develop in the same way.
many thanks
Ray
At a glance...
Ver mensaje de RayQHi Ray
unfortunately I'm not able to have my own opinion as far as I don't have tasted these wines but really recent vintages. Nonetheless I've seen some posts here and there in the last mont that can help you. In addition to this I'm pretty sure than Iñaki and MCamblor as well will answer any of your questions. Here I do copy some of the URLs I remember:
http://iglegorburu.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/una-manana-entre-vina-reales-e-imperiales/
http://laotrabotella.com/2008/10/22/tres-de-cvne-y-archivistica/
http://www.todovino.com/revista.jsp?content=revista&art_id=339
Regards,
Jose
Re: At a glance...
Ver mensaje de joseThanks Jose,
It will take some effort to read those given the state of my linguistic skills
but I will persevere !
Re: At a glance...
Ver mensaje de RayQI'm sure you have more than enough spanish knowledge to understand these articles, anyway if you need any help let's know. In addition to this, Olaf was also an attendant in the tasting season reported by Iñaki, so you can ask him directly to him ;)
cheers,
Jose
Re: At a glance...
Ver mensaje de joseThanks Jose,
by the way I have been having problems recently with some of my favourite 'new wave' Spanish red wines. Increasingly I'm noticing a wall of oak. I know I know !!! steady on I'm not turning to the 'dark' side just yet (!) but I'm worried that as the fruit is fading the oak is remaining. Some recent bottles (of wines I like) are like licking wood. Oh dear ! :-(
Re: Old CVNE's
Ver mensaje de RayQI also had the fortunate experience to taste an old CVNE. I had a bottle from 1966. It was fantastic ..it really had a burgundian type character. I bought the bottle in a store here in Barcelona. They even have bottles of riojas from 1928 that are in there own originl box.
I sense...
Ver mensaje de RayQMuch fear in you young Skywalker ;)))
You know Ray that one of the points used against the kind of wines 'labeled' as new wave is that despite at their first stage many critics and guides say that the oak will improve and overlapped in a nice manner as the wine age... it never happens :-( and then you have an oak soap at first stage that never improves and goes to an oak wrapped in oak... You know it's just a general conception that it's not headed to any specific wine...
In addition to this, and IMNSHO, I think that due to the youthful of this kind of wines they're still experimeting with the vinification methods and we're paying their experiments @-/
Anyway, we would appreciate to have your opinion on the wines you drink. I'm not speaking just this wines you say that were disappointing but all of them. I always like to understand and learn what wines drink people from other countries... We, spanish, are always soooooooo spanish-biased ;) that is always nice and refreshing to hear other points of view.
Cheers,
Jose
Thanks Master Yoda !
Ver mensaje de joseIt should have read "much fear in you I sense young Skywalker" ;-))
Yes I have a creeping fear that we may indeed be paying for some expensive mistakes. I think some of the modern wines I like are good examples of the style and do integrate. However I think I will no longer pay high prices for wines with no track record just to fund new French barriques.
The two recent worst offenders were Convento de San Francisco 2003 and Acustic from Montsant.
The latter supposedly only spends 10 months in oak but it was like licking a tree. The wine was hiding behind a wall of oak.
I will try to post more notes, I promise.